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cupcake
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  11:52:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just read in the paper how a hospital patient called the police when he was desperate for water,after being refused by staff ,he got dehydrated after medics failed to give him vital medication to control his fluid levels .Sadly he died from dehydration ....absolutely DISGRASEFUL ...whats happened to our country ???

Cae
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  12:23:08 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes I saw the story online
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2167643/Patient-dying-thirst-rang-999-Inquest-hears-mothers-fury-nurses-neglected-son.html
Disgraceful isn't strong enough I think - especially when the nurse asked in front of the family if she could "bag him up now."
An elderly lady I know almost died from dehydration at Christmas - professionals were responsible there too and thank goodness the family intervened otherwise she would not be here now. It's not uncommon either. It's reached the stage where you have to be vigilant going into hospital - there's many brilliant and caring staff in hospitals but also the opposite unfortunately.
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jacal
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  12:34:44 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
there are some disgracful hospital staff and these situations shouldnt happen but as a whole we only ever get told bad stories, it seems as a nation people prefer negative aspects than positive. I have recently come out of hospital and have nothing but praise for the professionalism of the nurses. I think the good would outnumber the bad stories if they were told instead of focusing on bad however as i said it is a terrible situation and needs to be made aware to staf and managers involved.
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llanover
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Australia
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  13:05:13 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yep, I can understand your comments. My lovely Dad had a brain tumour, it was pressing on his optic nerve and he started to lose his sight. On the one and only occasion he was admitted to hospital, we were horrified to find that he was starving and dehydrated. His meals had been put on his bedtray at the side of his bed, which he couldn't see and no-one said his meal was there. His drink jug was on a bedside locker that he couldn't see. He was dressed like a tramp from charity donated clothing because no-one had bothered to unpack his bag. Because of his serious condition when he was admitted in the middle of the night we weren't allowed to stay with him to oversee what was going on. The "person" that got him into bed was a totally p***ed off ,almost non English speaking individual who castigated him for being a nuisance as she wanted to go home. Sometimes it helps having a lawyer, and a VERY senior medical person in the family. I have no doubt that if my Dad had been there for any length of time the result would have been tragic. After complaints were made, and also being in contact with both local and federal Members, said person was dismissed and on the day visits that had to be made, we were treated like royalty!. The sad thing is that the ordinary person doesn't know how to handle things like this and more often than not, are too afraid to challenge "The Doctor" I have nothing but total respect for my GP who looked after Dad in his last days, the lovely ladies from District Nursing, the Palliative Care and Support Unit, they were marvellous. The huge enormous hospital to which he was admitted.....?????? BLAH!!! I can still see Dad, like a lifeless rag doll propped up in a wheelchair while the wonderful Paramedics tried to find some help and attention for him. I'm so glad he died at home, in his own bed, in my arms. Going to go and cry a bucket now. I loved Dad so much.


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djholly
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  17:31:25 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
i think we all have tales of mistreatment and near misses with the nhs. My dad was misdiagnosed for years with throat cancer, after being diagnosed and treated he died within the year. Without dismissing the above accounts, take a look at what obama's bringing into america. One of which is dying patients being assessed by a government led panel, not the family/hospital doctor on the grounds of cost effectiveness of prologing life. And they decide on the method of ending of that life. They're bringing 30 million more people into mandatory 'healthcare', (thats half the uk population) without plans to employ extra doctors. And the doctors will be paid the same, all employment will go through a government panel not the individual hospitals. Only going to get worse.
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cupcake
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Posted - 03/07/2012 :  17:51:36 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes i agree theres good and bad staff and doctors but i think theres more bad then good ,you go to the doctor's and they give you appointment for the next month yet its funny the waiting room is empty ,can you explain this ? I think its going worse .......
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Cae
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Posted - 09/07/2012 :  16:20:38 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Learn about the Liverpool Care Pathway - in operation in this area too. As I said previously - be vigilant- the lady I referred to above was saved by her family in the nick of time and is still very much alive and out of hospital thanks to their swift action.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2170792/Elderly-patients-deprived-food-drink-die-quicker-save-hospitals-money.html
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GOM
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/07/2012 :  17:00:42 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My father who passed on going on 2 years ago would have been 88 last Thursday suffered from alzheimer's and to cut a very long story short had to go into a hospital due to a fall. Mother never had him back home again (saying she was unable to care for him any longer) placing him in a care home ( that I was not at all happy about as the home was showing a few stars short of being any good). I spoke to them many times and was told he had been placed on the LCP and that mother had agreed to it, she says she was never told that but to be honest I'm sure she knew and agreed. Dad lasted about 6 weeks in the home, I am totally in her black book as I would not, did not wish to see my father waste away like that, plus the fact that it was around a 400 mile round trip journey in a day to see him that way. My mother is now a VERY wealthy woman of 87 this year.

My regret is that I never went over my mothers head to stop this mind my mother is not a woman to be reckoned with and would and dose have her own way no matter what.

I do not think I would support LCP but then again it depends somewhat on each case.


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Cae
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2106 Posts

Posted - 09/07/2012 :  17:27:11 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So very sorry to hear what happened with your dad GOM.
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tzar1967
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United Kingdom
17 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  21:41:11 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm so sorry to hear of all the sad experiences everyone has had,as a health professional myself I feel really ashamed of the treatment that some patients experience. I too have experinced bad experiences with family,one of which nearly died due an incompetant doctor! fortunatley now I do not keep my mouth shut and and tell nursing and medical staff alike exactly what I think is wrong and dont give a s**t if i become that pain in the butt reliative.If you think your reliative is being mistreated go to the top ask to see the manager then put it in writing send a copy to the chief executive of the hospital/trust. I'm also sorry to hear about the LCP which is designed to ensure the comfort of the terminal patient in the last stages of their illness,it covers a lot of areas but includes that patients are turned to prevent pressure sores , to make sure they suffer no pain, some of you seem to have experinced it as some kind of euthanasia.I know there are some bad nursing staff out there,but other nurses are encouraged to report these unfortunatley not enough are, I wouldn't hesitate!
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cupcake
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Posted - 18/07/2012 :  12:30:45 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just read another disgraceful story in the newspaper ,a 24 year old man collasped at a bus stop and died the next day ,after being discharged from hospital . He was taken to hospital by his girlfriend when he started vomiting blood ,the doctors told her he was being admitted for tests ,a hour later he was discharged .He fell into a coma and died of a heart attack . Another young life gone ,do these doctors know what they are on about ? This country is going down hill very fast ,something needs to be done ................
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cupcake
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Posted - 07/08/2012 :  22:14:44 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My Mother had a doctor's appointment today ,the doctor was over a hour late arriving and when she finally went in to see him he told her he was pushed for time .............Is this the way to treat an 83 year old woman ?
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