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webteam
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 Posted - 30/01/2010 : 16:59:20
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A further public meeting is going to take place in the Georgetown Community Centre on Monday 1st of February 2010 to discuss the proposed development of the old Red & White Garage at 07:15. Reports of the previous meeting were heated, with members from Blaenu-Gwent Council in attendance.
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pierre
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Posted - 30/01/2010 : 17:07:29
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Reports of the previous meeting were heated, with members from Blaenu-Gwent Council in attendance.
Tell me more ! |
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kay16
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 15:57:19
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| They want to put a 3 storey block of 6 flats for domestic abuse/support in the plot and the residents don't want it as they think it's the wrong area and too near the school. |
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pierre
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 16:34:07
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Do you know what the local Councilors are saying about it ?
Are they in favor of the development ? |
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uncle bob
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 16:55:21
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Well everyone has a right to a home/shelter whats the problem?
it seems it is always in the wrong area NIMBYS!!!quote:
Originally posted by kay16
They want to put a 3 storey block of 6 flats for domestic abuse/support in the plot and the residents don't want it as they think it's the wrong area and too near the school.
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Peregrine Honeydew
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 17:22:21
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.................and the residents don't want it as they think it's the wrong area and too near the school.
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Have to agree with you UB. Using the proximity of the school as a bit of 'emotive' blackmail. After all it does sound like a place for people who need protection by the community and not the community needing protecting from them. If its used correctly, then the abusers are not aware of the new addresses of the victims. We as a community must be prepared to help. We're only talking 6 flats.
I'd be interested to hear the naysayers definition of the "right" area too. Probably included the words "far" "away" "from" and "me".
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bigpappa
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 17:31:18
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| is it exclusivly for domestic abuse victims or is that a cover story for it to house lets say sex offenders? the truth needs to be spoken by the relevent parties |
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GOM
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 17:35:59
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"Well everyone has a right to a home/shelter whats the problem?"
We have more than enough ASB in this Town now are we to become the dusbin of BG? if so CUT our rates.
Employ lots more propper police people.
The G.O.M
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bigpappa
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kay16
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 17:55:12
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| The houses that are going there are for anyone who needs a home no matter where they are from or what problems they have,drugs, booze,problem families who have been kicked off other estates,ex-cons etc,the same goes for the refuge.It would not help the people of Tredegar as people from the home town can not be housed in their own area. This project was approved for EBBW VALE FIRST but it was near two councilor's homes, so it was moved to Blaina where,suprise suprise,it was near the head of bgcbc's home,so it was moved again.So IF IT'S NOT OK FOR THEM,WHY IS IT OK FOR WOODFIELD ROAD? |
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GOM
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 18:18:30
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Why indeed ????????
I say yet again WE In Tredegar have more than enough of our own troubles with out importing even more.
These do gooders will take no notice of us, as long as its not on there door step
The G.O.M
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Peregrine Honeydew
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kay16
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Posted - 31/01/2010 : 20:15:40
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| I think this maybe the new building that is replacing the cottage homes next to the general hospital,as i think united welsh have that contract too,as well as st james parade,the old sirhowy school,woodfield road and also the new estate next to the deighton school. |
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coop
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 07:29:38
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| In the first meeting held about the development stated that the place would ONLY be used for vulnerable women and their children, at that meeting everyone was assured that was all that the building was going to be used for, also it would be staffed 24hr with trained staff. The initial meeting did not say it was replacement of an out-dated Hostel for the Homeless or a hostel that will provide accommodation for single people. No wonder people of this area have got their backs up, it's not the proposed development as it is badly needed as the exisiting building is an eyesore and full of rats. Having worked in that type of hostel before I for one would not like it on my door step because if the council could not inform the public in the begining of the proposed use of the hostel what else have they got hidden up their sleeves. |
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kay16
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 15:10:50
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| Very heated meeting last night and Trish Law has said that she wants an emergency meeting with the council to be called as not only is there so much opposition from the residents but there is clearly a massive problem with the site due to the culvet that runs through it,as it is very prone to flooding,as many of unfortunate residents near this culvet know and UNITED WELSH DO NOT SEEM TO GIVE A TOSS ABOUT THEM. |
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pierre
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Posted - 02/02/2010 : 21:07:30
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Please see picture below of the bus depot, where the development is planned.
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Supersnooper
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 11:11:04
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It was a "heated" debate, and Cllr Jason Owen came in for quite a bit of "stick" for his part.
Some comments from Trish Law about grant funding now running up against the buffers also caused some acid comments, and questions about where exactly the money has been sitting for a length of time etc. etc.
Unfortunately, there are always the smug b******s stood at the back, revelling in the discomfort of Independent Councillors/AMs/MPs
Sarcastic comments came from our illustrious ex-mayor, who, of course, has NEVER put a foot wrong has he?!
But he was certainly rubbing his sticky little mitts at the thought of votes being lost by Cllr Owen (whom he has never forgiven for beating him convincingly at the last Borough Elections  )
The subject is an emotive one though, and some of the above comments are spot on - Not In My Back Yard especially.
It's just a shame that there is a NEED for this kind of accomodation in the first place, but, as has already been said - it has to go somewhere - preferrably where both local residents AND the poor victims of domestic violence, can all feel safe and secure in each other's company.
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Fluffpants
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 11:31:18
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Originally posted by Supersnooper
The subject is an emotive one though, and some of the above comments are spot on - Not In My Back Yard especially.
It's just a shame that there is a NEED for this kind of accomodation in the first place, but, as has already been said - it has to go somewhere - preferrably where both local residents AND the poor victims of domestic violence, can all feel safe and secure in each other's company.
I completely agree with this statement however, its a pity that Tredegar is seen by BG LA as a dumping ground for this type of facility. Especially gut wrenching, when an attempt has been made to build them in another area and been objected too.
It just goes to show the calibre of our councillors and shows the obvious lack of disregard that the LA as a whole has for them.
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ken sully
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 12:07:48
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THIS IS WHY THIS TOWN IS DEAD AND ALL OF TREDEGAR COUNCILLORS DO FA TO GET SOME LIFE BACK.
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kay16
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 14:09:54
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| Down this end of town we ALREADY HAVE A REFUGE FOR EITHER ABUSED WOMEN OR WOMEN WHO ARE LIVING IN DANGER AND THEY ARE FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY,QUITE A FEW ARE FROM SCOTLAND,so please can someone tell me why we should have another one just 2 streets away and yes they do have trouble there with ex-partners coming to look for them and the police have attended incidents,so do we really want this to happen so close to the school?It's fine for everyone to think about the abused [i do thank god that i am lucky enough not to need their help] but no one seems to be thinking of the school children or the residents including our councillor. |
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kay16
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Posted - 03/02/2010 : 14:14:44
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| Forgot to say united welsh also own the old sirhowy school land mybe they will put this refuge on that site or on the old sirhowy inn site,you never know. |
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bigpappa
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 19:18:52
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| with regards to the link to the web site of the architects who are designing the place if you save the picture it is saved as "arosfa" so i think the picture that is shown is for the "new arosfa" when they decide to demolish and rebuild |
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Peregrine Honeydew
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 19:30:28
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Originally posted by bigpappa
[br..................that is shown is for the "new arosfa" when they decide to demolish and rebuild
Now you mention it, it even looks like they've got the background set up for it, as if it was in Park Row. Park trees and mountains behind and so on. Nothing else I can find on there re: Woodfield.
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bigpappa
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 19:34:33
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yea i think we are right there peregrine i think it is "arosfa" the wall out side looks like the ones still there
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kay16
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 21:05:38
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| The design picture that was put on here on 31/01 is,as i posted on 31/01,the new plan for the old cottage homes which united welsh[i believe] will build,it is not the plan for the woodfield road site. |
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pierre
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Posted - 10/02/2010 : 17:44:24
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Would it be possible for the people that could not go to the meeting, to know have the councillors in attendace felt about the development at Weoodfield?
Were they for it, or against ? |
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Delelopment at Weedfield Road - Public Meeting
Does anyone know where the "out-dated Hostel for the Homeless" they are replacing is?
