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kay16
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 Posted - 04/03/2010 : 23:15:36
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| Just had a quick look at rightmove houses for sale and noticed a nice house up for sale in upper james street,could this be the start of many? and if so how are they going to sell it because, by law, they will have to say that it's possible that building work for a refuge could be starting in the plot opposite in the next month or so and i don't think many people will be happy to buy knowing this,do you? |
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webteam
Web-Team Member
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Posted - 10/03/2010 : 19:56:16
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Tredegar bus site could get domestic abuse refuge
Source: SouthWalesArgus
THE former bus depot in Tredegar could be demolished and replaced with a housing for domestic abuse victims.
Plans have been submitted by United Welsh Housing Association to Blaenau Gwent council to knock down and replace the former depot in Woodfield Road with ten houses and six flats.
These will be used as supported accommodation for single parents and their children.
As well as the seven three-bedroomed and three two-bedroomed houses, there would also be flats built at the rear of the 90m by 70m site.
The proposed houses are a mixture of detached and semi-detached with two car parking spaces for each house and six spaces for the flats.
However, 306 local residents have signed a petition against the construction, with a further 29 letters and e-mails voicing their opposition.
The council's planning committee have been recommended to approve the plans at their meeting on Thursday.
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kay16
Advanced Member
293 Posts |
Posted - 10/03/2010 : 21:03:14
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| So,AGAIN this development is in the paper.1st it was in the local paper covering b/gwent now it's in a paper which covers the WHOLE OF SOUTH WALES.With this development the council has has ALWAYS SAID THAT SECRECY IS THE KEY TO THIS PROJECT,so if it's in the paper not once but twice HOW THE HELL CAN IT BE A SECRET ANYMORE,SO IF THIS IS THE CASE THIS PROJECT CAN'T WORK AS SECRECY IS A KEY ELEMENT OF HAFAN CYMRU'S WORK,SO THEY AND THE COUNCIL ARE INFACT PUTTING THEIR CLIANT'S IN DANGER NOT HELPING THEM IF THIS GOES AHEAD. |
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kay16
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293 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2010 : 20:52:20
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| Just been informed that by the looks of it United Welsh DID NOT get it all their own way today at the planning meeting! The planning committee has called for a site meeting,which will prob take place on Monday 10.00.A few things were brought up especially why the site had been moved from so many places without explanation and WHY 1 MEMBER OF THE EXECITIVE COMMITTEE MANAGED TO INFLUENCE THE OTHER MEMBERS TO TAKE THIS OUT FROM HOLLAND STREET SO EASILY.ALSO FOUND OUT THAT A SITE IN WILLOWTOWN WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED BUT THAT TOO WAS PULLED WITH NOT EXPLANATION.A few of the committee said what some of the residents had written IN THEIR OBJECTION LETTERS about the people who could go in this refuge WAS DISGUSTING AND THEY SHOULD BE A SHAMED OF THEMSELVES [THINK THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN TRISH LAWS LOT AS WE ALL KNOW SHE WANTS THIS REFUGE FULL STOP].It was also said that the reason for such a quick site meeting is because IF NOTHING IS SORTED OUT IN THE NEXT WEEK THEN THEY WILL LOOSES THEIR GRANT-WELL TOUGH,THEY HAVE HAD THE FUNDING SINCE 2006ISH SO IF IT WAS THAT IMPORTANT TO GET A REFUGE WHY DRAG THEIR HEELS FOR SO LONG? So yet again we will wait and see,but i was told that it was quite good to see the smiles wiped off the face's of the men who were there for United Welsh, THEY THOUGHT IT WAS CUT AND DRIED,NOT HAPPY BUNNYS AT ALL. |
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coop
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Posted - 12/03/2010 : 06:58:03
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Hi Kay16
Your last post made very interesting reading have you any idea where this site meeting is going to be held please. |
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kay16
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Posted - 12/03/2010 : 11:47:56
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| Hiya coop,just waiting for confirmation at the mo,all we know is,it was gonna be monday at 10am but it's been changed to NEXT FRIDAY 10am.As soon as i know,i'll post it here ok. |
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llanover
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Posted - 12/03/2010 : 23:25:36
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| Yes, Kay, it's so secret that even I know about it, having read it in the Argus......and I'm in Australia!!!! |
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kay16
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293 Posts |
Posted - 13/03/2010 : 00:36:52
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| See what i mean,this must be the worse kept secret not only in B/Gwent or South Wales but in THE WORLD by the looks of things.Hafan Cymru may as well hang a big luminous arrow from the sky pointing to this plot saying here we are because every tom,dick and harry knows about this [ no offence llanover],which like i keep saying is not good for the women who need a safe haven.If i can see this why can't they?The whole point of a refuge is that it's safe,secure and secret,well IT AIN'T SECRET.It might be safe and secure for those inside with the 22/27 internal security camera's but not for the residents near this if someone comes looking for their wife/partner and kicks off outside is it? |
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kay16
Advanced Member
293 Posts |
Posted - 13/03/2010 : 13:47:04
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| Just been told by keith hayden our councillor that the SITE MEETING IS FRIDAY 19TH MARCH 10AM MEETING ON WOODFIELD ROAD.PLEASE PLEASE COME DOWN AND SHOW YOUR SUPPORT IF YOU CAN AS LIKE I KEEP SAYING NEXT TIME IT COULD BE YOUR AREA.THANKS! |
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kay16
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293 Posts |
Posted - 20/03/2010 : 11:31:35
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| The update about what happened at the site meeting,is on GENERAL DISSCUSSION-TREDEGAR,THE PROBLEM WE GOT IS.......Sorry,still too angry to put it all on here again,so if you can spare the time PLEASE HAVE A READ.Thanks to everyone for their comments and support,weather in person or on here and like i said WE'RE NOT DONE YET I CAN ASSURE YOU OF THAT.Also,as it happens after all of this,i was talking to someone who lives by the drug abuse hostel/centre in ebbw and they told me they have had a few problems near there and as soon as that opened AT LEAST £10,000 WAS INSTANTLY WIPED OFF THE PRICE OF THE HOUSES AND ANYONE WHO WANTS TO MOVE CAN'T SELL THEIR HOUSE,NOT A CHANCE. |
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webteam
Web-Team Member
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Posted - 25/03/2010 : 16:21:18
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'Urgent' need for planning change in Wales
Source: BBC
A review of Welsh planning has discovered "faults clearly exist" and "major change is urgently required".
Consultants GVA Grimley also said the system must be made more responsive to the needs of business.
They found planning was increasingly complex and time consuming, as well as disproportionately expensive and difficult.
The assembly government, which commissioned the review, said there was a need to simplify the system.
GVA Grimley's research took evidence from planning authorities, focus groups and others to compile a draft report as part of its consultation.
The consultants said the assembly government should issue a new planning policy statement making clear how far economic development should be a factor in deciding planning applications.
The report said: "The findings of the local planning authority questionnaire and the focus groups show a planning application process that is clearly under stress.
"Whilst it continues to make decisions on applications, faults clearly exist... whilst a completely new system of planning control is not needed, major change is urgently required to the current process."
The report's authors said potential planning outcomes, application requirements and timescales "can vary so significantly and change so swiftly".
Figures on planning appeals appear to show significant variations in the quality of decision making across Wales.
In Blaenau Gwent (50%) and Monmouthshire (49%), nearly one in two planning decisions were successfully appealed against, while in Anglesey only 16% of appeals succeeded.
Focus groups held as part of the review concluded the system was too diverse and unpredictable for a small country.
They told the consultants the differing resources, expertise and experience of each local planning authority means that the application system in Wales is operated in 25 different ways and this is causing difficulty for all.
The authors found "dramatic variations" in the proportion of planning applications returned to applicants without being registered.
For one unnamed Welsh planning authority this figure was 70%.
The consultants suggested changes should focus on three objectives: managing the planning system's complexity, reducing its uncertainty and increasing its responsiveness.
An assembly government spokesperson said the final report by the consultants was due to be submitted to Environment Minister Jane Davison next month.
The spokesperson said: "We need a planning application process that is efficient and decision-making procedures that are clear for all to understand and we need to look for ways to simplify the system while achieving sound, sustainable quality decisions.
"It is for this reason that we have commissioned this review and we look forward to receiving the final report."
All of Wales' planning authorities were invited to complete a questionnaire submitted by the consultants.
Three - Brecon Beacons National Park, Merthyr Tydfil and Wrexham - did not respond.
The CBI business organisation has also published a paper looking at the operation of the planning system in Wales and recently called for reform to encourage investment.
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kay16
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293 Posts |
Posted - 25/03/2010 : 17:35:06
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| They should have come to talk to us,we could have told them a thing or twenty[a lot more than two] about BGCBC Planning and i bet we're not the only ones!!!! |
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webteam
Web-Team Member
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 18:32:23
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Picture of Woodfield, taken Feb 2010
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uncle bob
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 18:42:48
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Originally posted by webteam
Picture of Woodfield, taken Feb 2010
The same painted wooden fence as at rhyd y blew Ebbw Vale,same company?
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kay16
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Posted - 26/03/2010 : 19:09:10
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| The picture of woodfield road show's exactly where the new entrance to the site will be.The size of the entrance will be from the silver car-the one at the begining of the photo,just the drivers wing showing-and the first tree. |
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seanr
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WelshGrid
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 12:02:52
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Well I have to say it and i dont care if I offended, but i find the people who are trying to stop this are disgusting. I guess they all have happy lives in their happy houses with their happy marriages and dont give a toss about people who really need help.
These people live in constant fear and have been beaten and raped yet the people stopping this development dont care about that. I wish this so called community would show a caring side for human beings and not keep thinking about what they can get for nothing.
Its time they grew up and stop being a bunch of old moaning f**kers. |
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kay16
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293 Posts |
Posted - 01/04/2010 : 14:35:04
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| So me,my family my friends and neighbours and 99.9% of all the residents here are disgusting? There are quite a few people around here [i didn't know about this till all this started] who have had first hand experience one way or another with domestic abuse and even they don't want the development here, they know the after problems domestic abuse brings,the husbands/partners who keep trying to find their wives,the one's who don't get the message,the one's that keep looking and won't take no for an answer,the residents phone calls to the police because the husband has knocked every house in the street looking for them and everytime they are told they are not there they don't believe them and barge in to look and get aggressive.Yep we really want this especially as there are a lot of elderly,single people and families with youg children surrounding this development.Even Hafan Cymru have said that there is a possibility that we will have people looking for their wives,hence the 27 CAMERAS. What would happen if an elderly resident was attacked because someone wouldn't take no for an answer,would you care if it was your nan or gramp?Don't say it won't happen because we've been told it could.The one's who should be ashamed of themselves are the council,if they were so bothered why have they waited so long [ at least 4 years mind]to sort this out.They had a site picked 2006/7 and WITH NO REASON AT ALL THEY PULLED THE SITE,IN 2008 THEY AGREED ANOTHER SITE BUT PULLED THAT ONE TOO FOR NO REASON.This abuse centre could have been up and running at least 2 years ago,doing the important job it does,but because of the council it wasn't,think of how many people they could have helped in 2 years!!!!!Even some of the planning members admitted that it was the wrong place for this development as they didn't realise that it was such a small,enclosed area and also how close this would be to all the existing streets.So we are not just thinking of ourselves,we are looking after a very large area of vunerable,elderly people who have lived here all their lives.I VISITED ONE ELDERLY WOMAN TO EXPLAIN TO HER THAT THIS WAS GOING AHEAD AND ALL SHE DID WAS CRY WHEN I TOLD HER.Enough of you seem to be thinking of the abused but what about the elderly around here don't they need to be thought about too? |
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tarkus
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 17:11:31
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Well said kay
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WelshGrid
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 19:10:40
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| This is what i mean kay you have the "not in my back yard" attitude and its not right you should all block this its for a good cause but then again if it dont benefit you you dont want it. |
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kay16
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 20:02:44
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| So nearly all of the bottom end of town is wrong?Everyone bangs on about community and the elderly of this community [and like i said there are many] want and have earned the right to be safe in an area where most of them have lived all their lives.It's not an option for them to move somewhere else,we are talking people who are 80+ years old.NOW WHO'S BEING SELFISH AND NOT THINKING OF OTHERS? |
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WelshGrid
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 20:31:19
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So are you and the others going to condemn these people to face there abuser day in day out then because thats what your doing.
Sure there are other shelters around the UK but the more we get the better it is to get them back into the living world and not in some nightmare.
Personally I have seen the devastating effects of abuse both on children and adults (Its my job dealing with these people) and its not a nice sigh. You have 24/7 CCTV in your area if thats what your saying with the 27 camera's and yet you would still feel unsafe ..... what else would you want police parked outside every house ? |
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Cae
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 20:32:47
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My query is - after reading through the previous posts- as they say it's a C2A category- could they still deem it ok to convert the place to house s*x offenders- when it's right by the primary school? I live near the one shelter - they're fine- they asked to join our Neighbourhood Watch- they're friendly but private at the same time .
But the Woodfield site location doesn't seem suitable for that particular change of use mentioned above- it's right by the school? Could that still happen bearing in mind it's so near to the school building? |
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WelshGrid
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 20:43:05
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| If it was ever turned into a house for s*x offenders then thats the time we all fight for it to be changed, but as it stands right now its not for that its for people in desperate need. |
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Cae
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 21:32:17
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| Kay- did they sort out the problem with the culvert- or did they deny there was a problem? Not sure where that situation is at presently? |
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Delelopment at Weedfield Road - Public Meeting
