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benjifer
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Posted - 28/08/2004 :  18:13:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone noticed that when the council do any road works on the area surrounding the town clock they dig up the lovely cobbles and replace them with tarmac?

I bet there is a councillor somewhere with a fantastic drive.
what do you think?

pierre
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Posted - 28/08/2004 :  23:56:11 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
VERY WELL SAID..

Have a look at the below.
I took this photo below this evening...



I was going to put it on the main news page !!!

Is Welsh Water going to do anything about it !



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joan price
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Posted - 04/09/2004 :  11:36:12 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Has anyone noticed that our Town Clock is now the Town
Keep (as in a castle keep) It now has it`s own moat. What is progress in our town, when every chance `outside infulances` have half a chance, they make a bee-line for our Circle, and especially our Town Clock.
I agree with the topic opener, what is happening to our town clock and the `circle`. I know,at one time, when the `Town Hall`was in the now N.C.B. Club, the Circle was central to all activities.
Don`t forget the `Police, Camara, Action` C C T V `s that are planned for the town centre. Maybe someone in the council has found a way of fundraising, proposing to
sell footage to T.V. stations, as other forces have. If
they sell the video`s to international T.V. companies,
then they could use it for a lot of things, maybe to increase police (remember your local bobbies, and they
actually WALKED the beat. or maybe to reduce the council tax we pay (any reduction would help).
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benjifer
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  10:39:31 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe if they install the CCTV we will be able to see who is giving the workmen the back handers to pave their drive!!
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benjifer
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  10:48:44 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oh lordy, they are on to us!

They have started digging up the layby outside the chapel now, you know, the one opposite In trim!
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joan price
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Posted - 12/09/2004 :  12:02:11 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Either they`r looking for gold, or maybe British coal is looking to sink anoher coal pit. What ever it is about,
it is becomming a nightmare for traffic to go from one end of he town to the other.
Another thing about the town is parking. Has anyone realised that the designated areas are getting bigger!
Take for example, the area outside the shopping centre,
when the parking area is full, those idots park on the pavement opposite. Can`t they park in the car park behind the shops? Many are too lazy to walk those few yards. It means that driving through town, especilly on a Friday is becomming a nightmare. You are watching either side of your car to see that you don`t get a scratch, or even worse you`ll get some idot just pulling out from their parking on the left and cut you up.

Joan
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Cityboi
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Posted - 27/09/2004 :  09:48:20 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Although I no longer live in the town my folks do so I did some digging of mf own ! The tarmac is only a temporary measure. The council will await the planned works to be completed & will then arrange for the 'cobbles' to be reinstated in one operation rather than doing it in dribs & drabs as the work progress. This of course will involve the diggig up of all the tarmac which has been laid around the clock thus causing more disruption in the centre of town ! Information courtousy of Blaenau Gwent Highways Dept who are based at Monusk Depot, Barleyfield Industrial Estate, brynmawr, NP23 4YF Tel. 01495 311556. Having been through their call quing system , which didn't take long was put straight through to Highways who were very helpful but were unable to inform me as to the projected time until completion as the officer in charge was out on site . They did however offer to get the officer concerned to call me back. I declined this offer as I knew I would be on meetings for most of the day myself. Hope I have beenof some help.
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pierre
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Posted - 27/09/2004 :  21:38:34 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice one .....



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Cityboi
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Posted - 28/09/2004 :  09:19:31 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi joan, in my previous posting meant to mention that if you are having problems with pavement parkers all you have to do is call the police. Pavement parking is not only antisocial & irrisponsible ( especially to the disabled, the elderly & people with pushchairs ) but it was also made a motoring offence to do so about 4 years ago. This not only applies to town centres but every pavement in the U.K.There will of course be objectors who will argue that the police have better things to do . However I assure you that they will take the matter seriously . They would prefer to walk up town to deal with a pavement parking report than to attend a road traffic accident involving the fatality of a resident who was killed walking around such a vehicle .
What is more you could petition the council about this. Although pavement parking is a now a police matter , If enough residents signed a petition ,in conjunction with getting the support of the local police & the town council then maybe bollards could be installed.
Finally i would like to point out that pavement parking costs us money. The pavement is constructed to a lesser foundation level than the actual road. This is because they are intended for different purposes. Over time the additional weight of vehicular usage will cause the pavement to subside & therefore become dangerous. It is the council tax revenue that will cover the cost of repair not to mention legal & compensation costs if someone trips and falls.
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AaranTL
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Posted - 20/10/2004 :  22:29:02 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi everyone. I have great news. I went up town for lunch today and noticed that the cobbles surrounding the town clock are being replaced.
About time to.
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benjifer
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Posted - 21/10/2004 :  07:47:43 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yay!
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Cityboi
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Posted - 22/10/2004 :  00:35:33 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Told ya so! A bit more time talking to the council & a lot more time listening to them normally achives the desired result or at least a compromise. In the future instead of wrongly accusing the council of being a bunch of pavestone pinching pilferers try picking up the telephone. You never know by spreading the truth you may actually start to paint a possitive picture of the town
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benjifer
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Posted - 22/10/2004 :  09:07:00 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Feisty!

I don't think they were wrongly accused really. Some of those cobbles have been missing for upwards of three years. thats just laaaaazy....

But well done for giving them a gentle prod. You never know, it may have been down to you that they did replace them.

Benji

Still think we need a new council though....

Edited by - benjifer on 22/10/2004 09:10:06
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Cityboi
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Posted - 22/10/2004 :  13:12:09 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If they were missing for 3 years I take it for granted that the citizens of the town reported this to the highways dept. I also take ot for granted that the citizens concerned have REPEATEDLY chased the council when nothing has been done?.....Well thats not exactly the case is it ? i know exactly how many people bothered to report the matter. As I have said else where the council cannot keep an eye on every bit of road in the borough. If you do not report things you cannot expect them to get fixed. Belive it or not the council would rather spend a few hundred repairing a pavement than a couple of grand in compensation when someone trips. The local authority is far from perfect but they are not to blame for everything.
Anyway instead of going on about this how about starting to post genuine ideas of how to revitalise the town. Between us there must be some good realistic ideas floating about. How about looking at all that available land known as the enerprise park. To imagin big buisiness there is a folly. most big buissiness is blue chip industry that requires non former industrial land for its manufacturing process. Additionally Tredegar has no railway station ( nor one in local proximaty that is suitable for loading heavy freight ) there is no airport & until global warming goes crazy there is not a sea port !! Admitidly there are improved road links but this is not enough to encourage outside investment with the carrot of low & easy distribution costs.Well what could go here ? How about inside investment. Hmm what do I mean well imagin a large easy access car park with security cameras for added reassurance, then a huge purpose built market site to rival Abergavenny complete with impresive market hall. If traders are prepared to go to Aber then they will come to you. How about an outdoors pusuit centre. What about a paint balling range ( very popular with yuppies who are frustrated soldiers the one in Cowbridge does a roaring trade as its one of only several in the whole of South Wales ) Wheres your nearest large purpose built garden centre ? There is a big interest in fire arms in the area where is your nearest rifle range? Rather than just thinking of bringing people in to work who then just go home, bring in the visitors who will spend there.Shops will prosper, it will create jobs & have a knock on effect throughout the community. All it needs is imagination & enthusiasm. Do you have this fire in your belly ? IF SO USE IT . What are your ideas .... comments about the council will be ignored at this point as this is your chance to voice your desires for the town
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benjifer
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Posted - 22/10/2004 :  15:28:10 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We used to have a outdoor market, until BGCBC closed it.
The idea of anything to do with fire arms alarms me more than I convey to you via a forum and the good people have been campaigning for change for the town for many years (Tredegar Action anyone??).

The problem is that those who shall no longer be mentioned don't actually care all that much. I have a friend who works on the council and even they say that it is like banging your head against a brick wall. Many of them simply love the pomp and ceremony of being officials.

Oh and we also have outdoor pusuits in Bryn Bach Park (which the council tried to close in '94, My mother was actually one of the people who campaigned for it to remain, safe guarding the jobs of the people running the cafe and the wardens, resulting in the revelation that certain council memebers were embezzelling funds to go on holiday with.) including watersports, quad bikes and visiting rallies.

I wholeheartedly believe that BGCBC have become complacent, and unfortunately so have a majority of voters, scared of the alternative which is normally the tories, and something they can't bring themselves to vote for.

So as I hope you can see, I am not blinkered to the needs of my community. I simply wish that more would be done by those, with the postion and power granted them in good faith, to encourage investment. Tredegar does have potential, so do the people of Tredgar. New businesses do open, but they often also close. Quickly. This is the reality. But it doesn't have to be.

Yours, with faith in the power of the people,

Wolfie

Benji
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Cityboi
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Posted - 25/10/2004 :  00:24:41 Link directly to this reply  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Would not suggest for a second that you were blinkered, infact I would suggest that given your postings you are are an asset to the town. Where Pomp & Ceremony are concerned I personally think you are correct...as they say no bigger capitalist than a socialist in power ( ducking bullets as I write that lol) I,many years ago ,once worked in the civic centre in Ebbw Vale ( stop booing ).....in the finance dept ( Aaaghh stop throwing stones ), I could tell you some true stories that would make your toes curl & your blood boil. Ah yes I remember the refurbishment of the Mayoral suite back in the 80's VERY well. You know that gold plated cutlery ( kings pattern ) was quite a sight, ( enough for a full civic function thousands of pieces at 22 for a single knife imagin the cost !)the thick fitted wool carpets were to die for ,the light fitments were sumptuous & if you saw the finishing touches in the private living quarters ie the living room & yes the bedroom that once existed there (wonder if they still do ) you would have gone green with envy. Everything was apparently to impress visiting V.I.P's.But then this was many many years ago. By the way the new chain of office that appeared during this time was just the prettiest thing AS WAS ITS COST !!!!!Guess how much... 22,000 !! Anyhow this has little to do with the clock or the circle ( sorry to wander Pierre )& I am talking about Blaenau Gwent DISTRICT Council, not county. I am as you see quite aware of the hypocracy of local government & their great failings ( especially where they come who put them in office is concerned ). I also belive in correct accountability.

Edited by - Cityboi on 26/10/2004 11:05:52
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